Can somebody please explain to me simply how to EV train and work out IV's?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48969 - places to EV train

Serebii gives you a good way to work out IVs: http://www.serebii.net/games/ivs.shtml

yeah I read that but it just confused me more =/

Well FDOL it goes something like this....

Everytime a pokemon levels up certain stats will increase........

Basically say u have a Mewtwo and four attacks......

Say 2 special and 2 physical.........

The stats increase depends on the battle moved used during the current level b4 it gained the level...

Say u had 4 battles......in each battle u used more special than physical attacks or vice versa or evenly used....

Ure pokemon will may gain more stats in that region as u have used that move more than the other type..........

Say u used 10 specials and 2 physicals then when it levels the sp atk will increase by 2/3 sometimes 4.....

But the stat increase is also dictated by the pokemon nature........ as u can use all sp atk and gain only 2 stat increase and u use no physical atks and get an increase of 4/5 this is due to the nature of the pokemon...... E.G. Blaziken

If this doesn't help lmk!!!!

I'll make it easy for you to understand.

On top of it's base stats, a pokemon can have up to 127 more stat points through proper training. A stat is limited to a maximum of 63 extra points.

Whenever a pokemon levels up, it will level up according to it's base stat and also some extra points. How it determines this is through "effort values" (EVs for short). Every 4 EVs are equal to 1 "real" point, so if you have 16 EVs in attack, you'll have an increase of 4 attack points. However, this won't happen immediately. The extra points are gradually added to your stat until you hit level 100. So although you might've added 63 points to your attack stat, they won't all be factored in until you hit level 100.

The reason why a stat is limited to 63 extra points is because you can only put in a maximum of 255 EVs in a particular stat, which translates to 63.75 points. Since stats don't round up, it is stuck at 63.

How are EVs determined? Well, whenever you battle and defeat a pokemon, it will give you EV points. Each pokemon gives you a specific (or sometimes multiple) stats. For example, defeating a Geodude in battle will give you pokemon a EV point in defence, and defeating 4 geodudes will always give you one point in defence. Everyone who gained experience from the battle will get points, so using experience share will also give your pokemon EVs as well. There should be a list on gamefaqs that tells you which pokemon gives you what stat, so you can plan your EV training.

To speed up your EV training, you have 3 options. The first one you can use are drugs. Carbon, Zinc etc all give you EVs on a specific stat but will only increase it up to 100. Therefore, you should always feed your pokemon drugs before training. The second option is to use macho brace. Macho brace doubles the amount of EVs that you receive. The third option is to get your pokemon infected with PokeRus, which also doubles the amount of EVs that your pokemon gets. Macho brace and Pokerus both stack, so it's possible to get a lot of EVs this way.

Techniques on EV training require you to know what you want your pokemon to do. Giving your Special Sweeper increases in Attack and Defence aren't going to do much; it is better to put them in Special Attack and Speed. Also, by combining increases gained from natures and EVs, you can get some pretty insane increases in specific stats.

Thanks Kai...I think I get it now anyway but that looks almost identical to the info posted on serebii.net

Well if you have more questions just ask.

what pokemon are best to battle against to raise certain stats?

HP:
Bidoof
Shellos
Gastrodon
Wooper
Quagsire

Attack:
Shinx
Kricketune
Bibarel
Machop
Snover
Machoke
Seaking
Gyrados

Defense
Geodude
Onix
Hippopotas
Graveler
Steelix

Special Attack:
Budew
Gastly
Haunter
Gengar
Roselia
Gloom
Golduck

Special Defense
Tentacruel
Mantyke

Speed
Starly
Zubat
Golbat
Pikachu
Pichu
Staravia
Zubat
Murkrow
Poliwhirl
Poliwag
Sneasel
Meditite
Medicham
Spearow
Fearow
Rattata
Ratticate

where did you get this list from?
and how much stat points do they get for each battle

I cant remember lol

it might have been from this site http://www.serebii.net/games/ivs.shtml

ah ok its amazing how complicated pokemon has become since red and blue

Understatement. You need like a PhD in Pokemon just to play the damn game now lol

I'm pretty sure EVs were around since red/blue


ETA: Btw FDOL, you can use vitamins and all that to boost EVs so it's not completely done via battles. Each one will give 10 EVs and you can only gain 100 EVs from each one max. Can't remember what the limit was on the total you can use though.

Agreed. I got all the carts up to Crystal Version & then gave up when raising their stats & getting them to like you became even more complicated.
Half of those listed Pokemon I never heard of b4.
I think I stopped at #251 lmao.

Yes, definately, but there weren't so many evolutions back then.

They probably were. I swear they should rename these pokemon games according to the level oe OC required to complete =/

they prolly were around back then but they werent as well known as they are now.

There was:

Eevee
Flareon - Fire Stone
Vaporeon - Water Stone &
Jolteon - Thunder Stone

That was it.

Lol @ no idea what we're talking about.

now theres
eevee
flarion
joltion
vaporion
espion
umbrion
leafion
glacion

Of course I do not & admitted it, because I stopped playing at Crystal version.
EV = Eevee..simple enuf?

I think she is being sarcastic. EV= Effort Value

I was being both sarcastic AND ignorant of the whole fact.

i was appemting ev training for the second time last night, i was battling lv 3 zubat trying to advance my speed, and i thought this is ****ed im getting nowhere slowely my pokemon being on lv 56 making it hard to level up against little zubat i flew in search of high level pokemon that dominate in speed. my journy lead me to victory road in search of golbat. i enterd the cave and was welcomed by machokes and onix's then with my frustration growing i said **** it and traind against high level pokemon by random. then when i was abuout 300 exp points from leveiling up i went back to the cave with level 3 zubats and continued my training. when my pokemon finally leveled up his stats were raised by as followed
attack: 4
defence:4
spc attack: 5
spc defence: 5
speed: 8
i am curious to know if that was a successful ev training attempt?
plz LMK

Firstly, use Macho Brace if you aren't already. Secondly, hard to tell. When it gets to level 100, check out it's IVs and Nature to find what it would be if you hadn't EV trained. Then factor in the EVs you've gained. You could also do this before level 100 but it will be difficult to get a definitive answer.

That's what the Rare Candy is for

OMG i did it again but this time my pokemons speed was increased by 10 OMG epic win

Yeah, but he was trying to see how successful his EV training was as opposed to just checking IVs.

Actually, let's all just get Action Replays and save ourselves hours

Reza hacks his pokemanz

lol already done....

lol NOWAT
you dont need an action replay when you know someone whos got one lol

yeah but you need wifi

and why get wifi when u got a freind with it to lol

LOL but having your own is infi better obv

lol i phail

You don't phail. You just need to steal Kurts WiFi

hmmmmmm
im taking your wifi and i wont take no for an answer
NO
blast foiled again

sonic duck blasting off again......

epic win

definitely!!!!!!!!!!

iv been to lazy to EV train atm but will keep posted as i do so
i mean EV training is great and all just need the patience

Does someone want to action replay me a pokemon team with perfect IVs?

I can do max stats and condition and make them lv 100 and shiny and give them epic moves and abilities

what happened to the good ol days involving training

What's training?

lol training is when someone continuiosly battles the pokemon league over an d over trying to get their pokemon to level 100 lol

Didn't they do that along time ago though?

i still do it, theres nothing in the pokemon games more satasfiening than raisning a pokemon to lv 100 by hand cept mybe finding a shiny pokemon by random.

hello all i continued my ev training and got my pokemon up one level and it went up 10 speed man i am epic YAWUT thank you all for your help on this discussion